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May 2

  • afullo
    About the time limitations, I'm trying with MS1.1 and I can go past the 10 minutes replay limit (with the correct displaying of the truncation message): stunts_morethan10m.png Note that the replay starts at 0:30.00 and ends at 10:20.30, so the older recording is progressively discarded. Now I'm going to proceed through the 25 minutes limitation, and to see what will happen...
  • afullo
    I just hit the 25 minutes limit, and the game simply returns the replay screen, like pressing ESC; trying to continue driving from the menu, which is still an active option (written in white and not in blue, differently from "save replay" which becomes inactive after 10 minutes), will result in the replay screen disappearing for a fraction of second, and then reappearing still stucked at 25:00.00... Maybe it has something to do with possible overflow errors: you can theoretically complete a track with a time higher than 25 minutes if you collect proper penalties, but I remember at least once to have seen a minus sign in the total time (elapsed+penalty), which was with all chance caused by a low number of bits for the integers involved...
  • afullo
    Indeed, in this example (units are 0.05): stunts_overflow.png I skipped 898 tiles, so I was charged with a penalty of 2694 seconds, or 53880 units. Modulo 2^16 = 65536 this equals -11656 units, or -582,8 seconds, or -9:42.80. This is consistent with the limit: 25 minutes are 1500 seconds, or 30000 units; 16-bit signed integers range from -32768 to 32767, so it would be possible to reach safely 27.18:35, I guess 25.00:00 is simply the nearest "sufficiently rounded" lower number.
  • afullo
    Just a minor remark: with the terminology used in Stunts Wiki: Penalty_time , I skipped *896* tiles, it is the chain to be 898 elements long. stunts_complete.png By leaving the track on tile 1 (I count them from 1, don't knowing whether there is an internal counting starting from 0), i.e. very close to the start/finish line, I rejoined it on tile 898, i.e. the one in position (3,30) on the grid; so the tiles from 2 to 897 were skipped, tile 898 is the re-entry element, and tile 899 is the element coming immediately after it, closing the penalty chain. Note that intersecting another nearby tile, e.g. tile 58 which is one step east to the s/f line, does not result in the chain interrupting, since (by quoting directly from the wiki) if, after performing a penalty-inducing shortcut, one returns to the track and then leaves it immediately, without closing the penalty chain, penalty will be calculated as if all elements between the first leaving of the track and the final re-entry had been skipped, even those crossed upon the temporary rejoining of the track.
  • Cas
    This is very interesting. I think it would deserve a good forum thread so it can be accessed easily. I hadn't sat to think about when the 32767 cycle limit would be exceeded. I think I never drove that long. What calls my attention is that the "last minutes" are kept instead of the first. We know Stunts records the key presses, not the physical status, so the only way to conciliate these two facts would be that Stunts uses an inverse function when going backwards, but this seems to contradict the fact that you can immediately warp to the beginning of the replay. Maybe this is only the case when it's not truncated, or maybe Stunts does memorise the replay initial conditions. Then if the replay could be saved, we'd see an additional field in it, but the key presses are clearly saved right after the track data in memory.
  • dreadnaut
    I copied the messages below to a forum thread, please continue there for posterity :smiley:Replay recording and limits
  • Cas
    Thanks, Dreadnaut!
  • afullo
    Also here: thanks dread! :smiley:

May 3

  • GTAMan15
    My PC was broke for 4 days, but it's finally good again. I can play again

May 5

  • Cas
    I updated (and posted) Bliss a couple of days ago. You guys can get 2.5.4 from http://dimioca.com/bliss -- "No kidding" is almost over! :shocked:
  • afullo
    I intended to do some tests on 2.5.4 this evening, but I was more busy than expected. As soon as possibile I will test something...
  • GTAMan15
    Why can't i edit my profile?
  • afullo
    Do you have difficulties to access the Edit Profile paga?
  • GTAMan15
    Afullo, i accessed it, but when i overwrite the letterboxes with different text, then it will restore to the previous version For example: My background text now: background My comment text now: comments Expertise: 0 Joined in competition: 0000-00-00 Height: 0 Expertise: Problems: If i change this, and click edit profile, then it restores to this
  • GTAMan15
    I mean when i click to modify, it doesn't modify things at all. When i click send, it also does nothing
  • afullo
    It's quite strange, I have just modified my expertise, and the data has been stored correctly into my profile...
  • afullo
    When in Brazil it's 11:45 of the final day of the race, and Duplode hasn't posted his replay yet... :cheesy: mazzarri-orologio-meme.jpg
  • Alan Rotoi
    I'm sure this is the right way but I didn't have time to make one single lap. I sent a replay with "the trick" with penalty time and the crappy ending just to stay in the scoreboard. Sorry.
  • dreadnaut
    Can't wait to see "the trick" !
  • Duplode
    @afullo: It turns out I'm not at work today :cheesy:
  • Duplode
    @Alan: Though I didn't have time to try Vette, I think I know what the trick is. If I'm right, it will be fabulous :smiley:

May 6

  • afullo
    Duplode, you are brave. What if your connection went down from 18:45 to 19:15? :O
  • dreadnaut
    Quiet replays published!
  • Alan Rotoi
    @Dup Yeah, when I said "the trick" I didn't mean the loop trick to reach power gear but the river jump :smiley:
  • Duplode
    @afullo: I once had to rush to a cybercafé on the other end of the neigbourhood. Today, though, I don't think I would have gotten there in time :cheesy:
  • dreadnaut
    Scoreboard confirmed, congratulations to FinRok, last-second Duplode, and CTG :smiley: And wow, just wow, for Alan's Corvette replay!
  • Cas
    GTAMan, before I forget, I had your issue to save the profile before. The problem has to do with the apostrophe. Don't use apostrophes in your text! Don't remember if same thing happened with quoting marks. Alan, wow! Great trick. This is the kind of thing I have to get used to seeing in my mind. Also, I have great difficulty with loops. I usually just end up doing them and that's it. Otherwise, it takes me ages.
  • Cas
    Here goes my first replay for the new track :smiley: Great track, by the way!
  • GTAMan15
    Thank you, Cas! I edited this by editing one letterbox/textbox for once, to be sure, and i could do it now
  • GTAMan15
    Cas, the Nissan Skyline was dropped a huge for some reason. All i did is just to add 10 points to Lamborghini LM-002, but i didn't modify Nissan Skyline. BTW: Ketiranyu needed to be spell "Kétirányú", but i understand, that accent letters aren't accepted, so it was called Ketiranyu. It means "Double way"
  • Alan Rotoi
    I guess it's on the rules about the winning cars and its % value.

May 7

  • afullo
    Whoops... :cheesy:
  • GTAMan15
    But what's the point of this? xD
  • GTAMan15
    But no penalty time, it's WTF? :smiley:
  • afullo
    It's called dual-way switching: Stunts Wiki: Dual
  • Cas
    OK. Let's start playing dirty, ha, ha XD - Honestly, I didn't know that dual-way switching could be done wrong-way :tongue:

May 8

  • Shoegazing Leo
    In english we say "What a trick!". In portuguese we can say "Puta que pariu! Que chuncho do caralho, porra!"
  • Cas
    Ha, ha... well, in Spanish (at least in Argentina), it'd be very common to say "Un truco de puta madre" :cheesy:
  • GTAMan15
    Anyway, will/can they beat Cas, and Shoegazing Leo? (The racers that didn't race in this track)
  • GTAMan15
    When Afullo is slightly better than Cas
  • afullo
    Maybe one day a race will show a tie, like in Jerez de la Frontera in 1997, when in the last F1 Grand Prix of that year, Schumacher, Villeneuve and Frentzen qualified with the same time, up to a precision of 0.001 seconds...
  • GTAMan15
    :cheesy:
  • GTAMan15
    The same time, but 0.001 seconds more :cheesy:
  • GTAMan15
    Anyone in GAR competition?
  • GTAMan15
    0.06 second from Cas to Afullo now
  • Cas
    Ah... guys, you're forcing me to do my best very early, ha, ha.... I'll have my tea and then come back for a try XD
  • dreadnaut
    Here's a GAR one :smiley:
  • GTAMan15
    Why isn't this Garfield competition instead of GAR?
  • Cas
    Ha, ha... true.... When racing GAR, the track becomes a GAR-field :tongue:

May 9

  • GTAMan15
    Cas is unbeatable
  • GTAMan15
    Maybe the 6th gear?
  • Cas
    Ha, ha.... The big guys will soon start posting and I will be finished XD
  • GTAMan15
    I'm playing with a Fidget Spinner
  • GTAMan15
    Yesterday there was thunderstorm in Hungary
  • GTAMan15
    Does anybody has those cars backed up? Dodge Challenger Skoda Felicia Kompressor Coconut Car Coronet Subaru Impreza WRC I'm trying to download them, but i didn't found it For those people, who doesn't know about this: Stunts Wiki: Category
  • afullo
    You can find some custom cars here: http://scr.stunts.hu/mods.html , though not the ones you were searching for. I should have the Skoda somewhere in my HD, anyway.
  • GTAMan15
    It hasn't here
  • Duplode
    @GTAMan15: The Skoda and the Coconut Car are in the "Cheat Cars" package available from the Downloads page here -- http://zak.stunts.hu/dl/chtcars.zip . The Challenger and the Impreza are two of the custom cars created by CTG that were never actually released.

May 10

  • GTAMan15
    Alan, your car got 30 percent bonus in negative way
  • GTAMan15
    But anyway, the Melange XGT-88 has a good handling
  • GTAMan15
    This is the best of me, i can't repair my score :smiley: But maybe in GAR
  • CTG
    The good old two tile thing, huh?
  • CTG
    Btw some other unreleased, unfinished (60-80%), non-airplane ( :cheesy:) projects: Top Fuel Dragster, Knight Industries 2000 (based on Pontiac Firebird Transam), Skoda 120, Trabant 601, Ikarus 260, Rolls Royce Phantom, Porsche 550A Spyder, Bugatti Veyron, Ferrari 156 F1...
  • CTG
    Here...
  • GTAMan15
    I downloaded Ikarus 260 BTW: Kőbánya-Kispest xD
  • GTAMan15
    Will you release them in public?
  • GTAMan15
    Will you release them in public?
  • GTAMan15
    The Ikarus 260 was on The Southern Cross competition, and it works very well
  • GTAMan15
    Is the Knight Industries a cheat car? (See the car's fasting, or what, i'm not a natural english speaker)
  • GTAMan15
    And the Top Fuel Dragster?

May 12

  • Cas
    You made it, Afullo! I'll have to try once more :tongue:
  • afullo
    Eh eh... :smiley: I think there are still some maneuvers that could be improved. :wink:
  • Cas
    Sorry that I couldn't do something more original. It's really hard already, so I just added up your tricks to mine. It's getting very, very difficult. I want to see what the professionals can do on this track :cheesy:
  • GTAMan15
    I reinstalled my PC (I know, that nobody is interested about it, but i'll post it)
  • dreadnaut
    We're only interested if you installed an unusual Linux distribution and themed with the Stunts colors! Stunts Wiki: Shape_materials
  • GTAMan15
    Okay :cheesy:
  • Seeker1982
    Hi all, I just wanna post that I had quite a lot to do in these days and past few weeks, so i missed uploading my best freestyle/rh time on C201, however place/position-whise it wouldn't have made a difference
  • GTAMan15
    Seeker1982, i have a challenge for you Beat Cas
  • Seeker1982
    @GTAMan15 - already happened :cheesy:
  • GTAMan15
    WOW
  • Seeker1982
    My GAR-time, however I will upload another one asap since my Dosboxed crashed during saving of the realtime recording etc
  • afullo
    It seems there is little space for strong improvements by now. But we know that surprises often wait for us behind the least significant corner...

May 13

  • Cas
    Wow, you see? Told you I'd soon be doomed, ha, ha XD My last lap cost me a really whole lot, so I don't know when I'm going to be able to get a faster one
  • GTAMan15
    Book for one again, Cas (If this still possible today) And you'll have another track in the 2018 season
  • Cas
    GTAMan, I already posted two tracks and I have a pending one. I think December should go to somebody else. Of course, I've no problem to build as many tracks as necessary. I like doing it.

May 14

  • afullo
    I guess that, apart from jumping in the most efficient way from the bridge ramp, it will resolve all in pushing the car to the very limit.

May 15

  • Swotl
    I'm surprised that Stunts still has a community like that :smiley: I have not played since the 90s, so I am a real rookie, but I hope to enjoy learning all the new tricks. See ya!
  • dreadnaut
    Hello and welcome Swotl! Have a look in out Newbie Guide (menu on the left) to learn about the competition, and under the "All results" section of the current track to download some of the submitted replays for inspiration :smiley:
  • Swotl
    Hi : ) My first replay.
  • GTAMan15
    Hello Swotl You can receive more bonus uploading a replay with the most rated car of the month's race It means car bonus percent. Higher positive percent is better (Now the Corvette ZR1, and the 25th Anniversary Lamborghini Countach are on the top, with 41%)
  • Swotl
    Thanks GTA, I know, but to me make a good record with those cars are more difficult even with the bonus. I tried several times but I can't manage to do, xD. Later will try again.
  • GTAMan15
    Swotl, can we see you also in GAR competition? In GAR competition, you aren't allowed to make shortcuts, and just the first two tire can leave the road, the other two need to stay
  • Swotl
    Done!

May 16

  • GTAMan15
    But NO shortcuts, so your GAR is invalid And you cut the two corkscrew
  • GTAMan15
    For example, watch my or Dreadnaut's GAR competition replay
  • Swotl
    Oh, sorry, I didn't know that about the corkscrews. But the path I choosed is ok?
  • Swotl
    Sorry about the last one. I hope this is fine.
  • GTAMan15
    Alright, but it would be better doing straight path (I mean no curving on road crosses)

May 17

  • Marco
    Hi, I'm the maker of the GAR rules . what has happened ? :smiley:) There's a little mistake in the video regarding the replay check at 5:05 . I say to press, if you want, the R button to remove the replay bar but tthis is not to do . only press F3, 3 times right button, 10 times up button and then check the replay leaving the replay bar actived. I will change the video as soon as possible.
  • Marco
    Seeker on Gar race is almost a robot
  • Marco
    i red the GTAMan15 indication :" In GAR competition, you aren't allowed to make shortcuts, and just the first two tire can leave the road, the other two need to stay" . This is not completely right. To be valid , it's enough to have only "one pixel" of the car to touch on, over or contacting the road.
  • GTAMan15
    Seeker1982 now takes the lead away from Cas
  • Shoegazing Leo
    Seeker is a Time Destroyer
  • afullo
    AFULLO wants to learn TRICK ROOM. But AFULLO already knows four moves. Should a move be forgotten to make space for TRICK ROOM?

May 18

  • GTAMan15
    It seems, that Afullo will take the first place, but within a week, it will reveal
  • Seeker1982
    my revenge time of 1:13.x I reserved for the later quite days, but afullo's time urged be to react immediately
  • GTAMan15
    So, now let's see, if Seeker1982 will be on the lead again
  • Cas
    I don't think I can beat that. With very hard work, I could be able to reach Afullo's current lap, but that's it and it wouldn't be easy at all.
  • afullo
    AFULLO uses ENDEAVOR! ( https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Endeavor(move) )
  • afullo
    Ouch, it seems that he doesn't like brackets in links, anyway no problem: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Endeavor

May 19

  • Seeker1982
    I still got something left :cheesy:

May 20

  • Cas
    Tiny improvement. The amazing thing is that I'm seeing how you guys do it, but when I try, it simply proves impossible
  • GTAMan15
    Happy Birthday FinRok!
  • GTAMan15
    Cas, you need to repair only one second in your time, and you will be on the lead again
  • Swotl
    I' really impatient to see your replays and see how you done that times xD
  • GTAMan15
    Click to Scoreboard: ZCT202, and all results Select the first five replay, and download them
  • Swotl
    Ah! I didn't know that! Thanks.
  • afullo
    Replays are public if posted in the first two weeks of the ongoing race, while can be left as private if posted later. Anyway, at the end of a race, all the replays are made public. Furthermore, you will see something strange in the route we followed: we made use of a trick called dual way switching, which allows to change path after a bifurcation without taking penalty, even if this allows to shorten the route.
  • GTAMan15
    The Dual-way Switching is a bug
  • afullo
    It was with all chance not intended by the authors, but like the powergear, it has been widely estabilished as a characteristic of the game.
  • Cas
    One second is a lot of time. I've been observing that my time up to the point of reaching the first corkscrew appears to be optimal. Everybody is getting there at second 51. But then the difference is made in the last portion of the track. Actually, the icy straightway is more or less always finished at 1 minute, so it's only the last 13-15 seconds where the difference is made.
  • Duplode
    Happy birthday, FinRok!

May 21

  • Cas
    FinRok! Happy Birthday! And Mark L. Rivers, happy birthday too! Hope he'd return someday
  • FinRok
    Thank you, everyone! And for celebrate my birthday i decided to run one race for victory! :cheesy:
  • afullo
    Happy birthday Rok! You gave your present by yourself haha :cheesy:
  • Cas
    Wow! I want to see that replay, but I'm going to have to wait XD

May 22

  • Seeker1982
    damn you FinRok :wink: I was hopeing for my first P1 in normal/RH style

May 23

  • Swotl
    There is a part in the slalom when my car touch only one pixel of the road in the top down view, I think it qualifies for GAR, but I'm not sure. Anyway, hi :smiley:
  • Seeker1982
    @Swoatl - in GAR you drove much faster than me,which why I curiously watched your replay: simply said at 0:30,00 your cutting the track resp. didn't follow the yellow line which in GAR is not allowed -> disqualification watch this and follow the outlined rules
  • Seeker1982
    at 0:48 Swoatl also cut the track, and in GAR its also not allowed to jump on or off the screw
  • Swotl
    @seeker , while I admit that the thing with the screw is not allowed in GAR ( Sorry, I didn't notice, again ) and therefore I'm disqualified, what is the problem with 0:30 and 0:48? In the rules textually says: "At least one pixel of the car chasis or of the wheels must be on, over or in contact with the road surface". If you look my replay, that's the case. 0:30 -> KwdHfRC.png 0:48 -> rV1Kbx1.png
  • Swotl
    When you erase my last replay, I will upload a new one, this time without infractions, I hope, xD ( sorry again )
  • Seeker1982
    @Swotl: you cut the track resp. didn't follow the yellow line in 0:30 and 0:48 - a crossing is not a corner you can follow in GAR-laps...
  • Swotl
    Just to be sure, the problem is that I took this path... BxVCvna.png Instead of this? 6B3ijRB.png

May 24

  • afullo
    Hmm, the first path you posted leads to a wrong way...
  • Marco
    4d Sports Driving GAR (Gentlemen Agreement Rules) RULES OPOOT  At least one pixel must be on or over the road surface . Check the replay from a sky view (press F3 camera on the replay page and press 3 times the right button and 10 times the up button to match the right camera postion, don’t use the zoom). Different cam positions can affect the result. Don’t press the R button to remove the replay bar ,This is a mistake I did in the video. Only the road surface is valid. For example the red and white side corner bumbs are not valid and not considered as road surface. Follow the yellow line without cut the circuit and pass the elements as they are without taking advantage by voluntary speedup as for example jumping out the corkscrew to increase speed. Only unvoluntary speedup are accepted (just apologize to other racers as for toughing the net on a tennis match) as they randomly happen entering banked roads or after jumps. REPLAY HANDLING STRICTLY FORBIDDEN. Start your run and finish it in one shot without saving , tricking, etc. Be fast, Be honest … This is GAR race.
  • Swotl
    Okay @marco, so, this is allowed or not? Because I can clearly see the car touching "at least one pixel" KwdHfRC.png And "Follow the yellow line without cut the circuit" means I can not do this? -> BxVCvna.png
  • afullo
    Apart from the wrong way thing that I said before, for the second question I'm quite sure you can't, since a crossroad is not a bifurcation, but rather a point in which the track intersects itself without affecting the proper order of the elements...
  • Seeker1982
    yes you do touch the road, but it conflicts with the "No shortcuts allowed - always follow the yellow line"-rules so it isn't allowed

May 25

  • Cas
    For some reason, I cannot see the pictures or links Swotl is sending. What could it be?
  • Duplode
    @Cas: The images are on Imgur. I have been using Imgur as well lately, so let's do some testing. Can you see the images in the Z187 (Anelio's) analysis forum thread? And what about this picture? d5uONJK.jpg
  • Marco
    Hi my friends, sorry for the delay ... Swotl that's not valid because you turned in a crox (while Regarding the surface touched by a car pixel, yes that would be ok). If you create a simple track as an 8 with a crox in the middle and you turn at the crox you will receive a penalty. Have you not recevied the penalty ? Anyway , not valid turn at the crox.

May 26

  • Cas
    Duplode: I can see both the picture you just posted here (F1 car) and the pics in the forum (track images) and now, for some reason, I can also see Swotl's pictures.

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