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Jun 1

  • Swotl
    Hello Chacan : ) (Suggestion: The best way to make better times is using a car with a good bonus percentage in the monthly track)
  • Swotl
    Sorry, I posted twice accidentally.

Jun 2

  • GTAMan15
    @Marco That's the FM Towns version of this game
  • GTAMan15
    ZCT202 - Ketiranyu is dead
  • afullo
    The last day can always reserve some surprise...
  • Chacan
    Still learning.
  • Duplode
    The following remark is late to the point of uselessness, but anyway: I'd say there is nothing problematic about dual way line in e.g. Seeker's replay. My remarks on the forum (cf. Z202 - Ketiranyu ) suggesting there might be an issue were made thinking of something much more sinister.
  • Duplode
    Actually, "nothing problematic" is a bit of an exaggeration, as it does involve wrong way driving. We might want to clarify the rules about this kind of shortcut after the race. In any case, that cut is very unlike the one I was concerned about.
  • afullo
    I'm off until tomorrow evening and so I can't see the replay. What is it about?
  • Duplode
    @afullo: Two tile switching -- turn back after the first jump and go straight to the end of the track.
  • afullo
    Ok, thanks. In the sense that you take a path after the bifurcation, and then with an U-turn you reach the end of the other path, thus technically switching without penalty?
  • arturbmallmann
    many wrongway replays? heheheh i think by seeing how the fork problems on stunts works and is explored there is not many difference between driving on grass or wrong way. If the game don't gave penalties that is a valid move.
  • afullo
    Valid unless striking. In my opinion doing a short wrong way isn't, but repeating the same section of the track in both ways could be.
  • afullo
    I mean, the first one isn't striking so it can be done, the second one is striking so it should be forbidden.
  • arturbmallmann
    uhmmm, good point, make the same section is a little bit ugly.
  • Duplode
    @afullo: "In my opinion doing a short wrong way isn't, but repeating the same section of the track in both ways could be." -- This might be an effective way to codify it without ruling out too much stuff (in particular, it accounts for Arthur's point about driving on grass, which is also worth considering). By the way, your description of the shortcut a few comments ago is correct.
  • Duplode
    On another note, the activity on this track has been lovely indeed. I really wanted to send a GAR lap as well, but I couldn't find the right state of mind in the ~10 minutes window I had available for doing so.
  • afullo
    Yes, at the end it has been in fact more debated and raced than the 200th track.
  • GTAMan15
    It seems, that Duploade, FinRok, and Seeker1982 will be on the lead :smiley: Congratulations for them, i really didn't think, that this track will be that successful, it was just a first try, but anyway, thanks for the records, and anything.
  • GTAMan15
    Anyways, this track's name needs to be spelled, and said as "Kétirányú", but the accent letters aren't allowed as track name, which is funny, because this site uses the .hu domain, which means, that this site is Hungarian, so why don't use "á, é, í, ó, ő, ú, ű"
  • GTAMan15
    It means "Two wayed" rightly
  • GTAMan15
    Congratulations to FinRok having the 255 leading time bonus! He has on the lead for 255 hours. It means 2 weeks
  • afullo
    I think it is better not to use non-ASCII characters, for example for displaying in external applications (e.g. Bliss) while retrieving championship data from the site...
  • GTAMan15
    I used only the in-game editor
  • afullo
    Other editors allow to insert and retrieve metadata, I don't know how special characters are handled...
  • Cas
    This analysis about the dual-way switching controversy is really interesting. I like the idea to explicitly forbid driving twice on the same section on the road in two different directions. Other than that, I believe the best approach is for the track author to always have the final word on whether DWS is allowed or not in their track. About ASCII: currently, Bliss can only handle ASCII, but I think I should definitely make it support Unicode. Also, a few tracks back, my track "Abusái" did carry an acute accent and it did show in the track title.

Jun 3

  • arturbmallmann
    oohhh, just now I made a good gar lap and the time got up :cry: hahhaha
  • arturbmallmann
    My gar video:
  • dreadnaut
    Quiet replays published!
  • arturbmallmann
    by 1 minute i lost this replay upload :/ ehhehe
  • dreadnaut
    Oh my, applause! Alan did the obvious thing that nobody could see :smiley:
  • arturbmallmann
    ohhh lord..... it was on my face and I don't tried! kkkkkk congrats alan!
  • FinRok
    Haha i didnt even test drive Lambo! Congrats Alan!
  • FinRok
    Nice alternate path taken with Lambo i wonder how Vette would manage in that path.
  • Alan Rotoi
    Thanks guys! I wonder why everybody used corvette instead of countach when it is faster in grass and on roads.
  • Shoegazing Leo
    I lost the chance to improve because I had problems with my PC last week. Anda saturday is a day for my sports website coverage. But, I perform better with Corvette than Countach. It's strange and I am usually the pipsqueak who tries more different cars by track.
  • Shoegazing Leo
    The next track is ready since three or four weeks ago. It's not a dual track, but a track with a visual concept of built.
  • Cas
    Wow! :shocked: I'm amazed! Nobody else saw it! How is it possible? Still, it's also surprising how much could be improved without using this, much better, shortcut. This is definitely a track to remember!
  • Duplode
    My first reaction upon seeing Alan's replay was "How in the world is this possible? This is a dual-way cut into the same path!" I watched it twice, and even opened the track on Bliss... then I noticed exactly where the car was on 17.55 :smiley: Congratulations Alan -- as Cas says, this is memorable!
  • afullo
    I will see your replay asap. For the moment, congrats, Alan. :wink:
  • Duplode
    PSA: There is an ongoing discussion about how to best handle the problem of two-tile dual-way shortcuts. Cf. the Z202 - Ketiranyu forum thread, as well as the shoutbox messages from yesterday.
  • GTAMan15
    We wait for ZCT203 for such a long time. The waiting time wasn't that much during changing tracks from ZCT201 to ZCT202 And now, ZCT202 and ZCT203 waiting time is too much
  • afullo
    Rest a bit and don't complain hahaha :tongue:
  • Duplode
    Nice to see you can hardly wait for ZCT203 :smiley: While revealing quiet replays to make the preliminary results available is largely an automatic process, starting the next race requires some extra time and manual intervention (watching all replays to make sure they are legal, writing any update posts and double checking everything has gone right); that why they aren't usually done at the same time.

Jun 4

  • dreadnaut
    Also, Leo sent me the track weeks ago! How am I supposed to remember where I put it? :tongue:
  • dreadnaut
    Scoreboard confirmed, new track uploaded!
  • dreadnaut
    This is good fun :smiley:
  • Shoegazing Leo
    I'm not high now...
  • Shoegazing Leo
    I'm faster with a Ranger than with an Acura... Maybe I would be a mad trucker...
  • Cas
    Oh! New track ready! :cheesy: Time to test it :smiley:
  • GTAMan15
    Yes! Finally the new track is here! High as Shift (Magas, mint a váltás?)
  • GTAMan15
    By "Magas, mint a váltás?" i mean that's the Hungarian title of the track. HUN: A "Magas, mint a váltás?" alatt azt értem, hogy ez a magyar címe a pályának
  • Swotl
    Before I screw it again, in GAR, this section can be passed by the side or you must drive in the roof? Ih6OxoY.png
  • GTAMan15
    Pass it by going on the right or the left side. The roof is a huge fun, but be aware of crashes. And don't crash to the bumpers/stones comes out from pipes.
  • GTAMan15
    Anyways, sorry for my huge inactivity
  • Seeker1982
    1:3x should be possible with RH/Freeplay
  • Shoegazing Leo
    The track name is a pun with the expression "High As Shit".
  • GTAMan15
    Gauges, shift, and wheel? Is this anything i should know about? Sergeant Cross xD
  • Seeker1982
    And the 1st GAR-time - a driven 1:51,85 in the NSX Acura
  • GTAMan15
    The Acura can curve on icy road when i press the gas button
  • GTAMan15
    Without leaving a huge drift
  • GTAMan15
    Leo, maybe the Ranger gives you 3 more percentages, but it's slower than Acura
  • GTAMan15
    Time for GAR :smiley:
  • Seeker1982
    Ford Ranger seems to be useless on this track - MUCH sloweer than the Acura

Jun 5

  • June catch-up

    Previously on these pages

    ZCT201 came and went without much drama. It was a nice and fast track by Cas, but with the Skyline at the top of the bonus ranking with a huge 43%, the race didn't fire up with exciting speed. I know it's past time, but you should give it a try with faster cars (IMSA!) to appreaciate Cas' trackmanship :)

    Dual way madness

    The month of relaxed driving was suddenly interrupted by ZCT202. The track was designed by GTAMan15, one of our newest pipsqueaks. It featured a pair of interwined paths, and some water that yours truly added to reduce chances of dual-way switching. I clearly failed.

    I took less than 24 hours for the first DWS replays to appear, with Afullo, Cas, Leo, Seeker1982 and GTAMan15 himself battling for the first position, shaving second after second with tighter and tighter trajectories.

    The thing is, dual-way switching usually leads to boring races. But on this track there were just enough features to keep the path interesting. At the same time, there was also a lot of traffic on the clean way: one of the largest GAR races, including Marco recovering form injury!

    Now, this would be enough for a good race, closing with FinRok in comfortable lead of about a second, followed by "last-minute" Duplode and a relaxed Seeker1982. But ZCT202 wanted to be spectacular! And from the box of the Quiet Replays pops out Alan Rotoi, who jumps in first position 7 seconds ahead of FinRok, travelling on a completely different path. A path that inches over the water between the two dual-ways, confusing Stunts to a point that Alan can dual-switch while staying on the same path.

    You might feel smart exploiting a bug to cut the track, but Alan can find the bug in the bug, and leave everyone else dumbfounded.

    Back to normal?

    Of course not. We now have to drive on ZCT203, a pipe dream designed by Leo. I've only driven a lap at this point, but it seems to follow his signature slow-fast-slow pattern, and looks fun!

    So grab the track, choose your favourite car and send us a lap!

  • Swotl
    Mi Acura doesn't run, it's automatic, xD
  • GTAMan15
    I doesn't SHIFT, because in this game I CAN'T SHIFT WHILE DRIVING

Jun 6

  • Duplode
    Good vibes all around :smiley:

Jun 7

  • Seeker1982
    getting close :cheesy:
  • Seeker1982
    Who's 1st when the times are identical?
  • Seeker1982
    Hell yeah - 1:33:80in RH/Freeplay (sorry for the spam)
  • afullo
    In case of a tie, that is a good question. I usually avoided that situation by improving at least of a further 0.05 before posting the replay, but it is managed somehow by the system. In ZCT198 Cas and Leo tied and were rewarded of the same amount of points, 7 as they both arrived 6th, although Cas shows as 6th while Leo shows as 7th. I don't know how LTB is calculated if for a certain amount of time two or more racers are at the top with the same time.
  • afullo
    By the way, I'm sure it is not the case of them (they probably didn't notice the thing at all), but this theoretically allows for teampoints maximization without racing the best performance. :tongue: I mean, had either Cas or Leo done a faster lap, provided that it would have been still slower than mine (I arrived 5th in that race), their team would have gained 13 points (7 from one racer and 6 from the another one), while they actually gained 14 points (7 from both racers). This is in contrast with the fact that the best you play, the more you should gain. :wink:

Jun 8

  • Duplode
    afullo and Seeker: If there is a tie, the involved racers share the position. In afullo's example, both Cas and Leo were 6th in ZCT198, even though the "6" and "7" shown in the scoreboard suggest otherwise. Things are different when it comes to LTB: you have to actually send a faster lap than the currently leading one in order to get leading hours. (By the way, the situation with the team scoreboard is... interesting. Well spotted!)

Jun 10

  • dreadnaut
    Happy birthday Duplode!
  • Shoegazing Leo
    Feliz aniversário, Duplode!
  • afullo
    Happy birthday! For a brief period you will be older than me :wink:

Jun 11

  • Duplode
    Thank you folks! :smiley:
  • Cas
    Happy birthday, Duplode!! :cheesy:

Jun 12

  • Duplode
    Thanks!

Jun 14

  • dreadnaut
    I wonder if the GTO could do better than the Acura. Not in my hands, but I have that feeling...

Jun 15

  • Seeker1982
    @dreadnaut quite unlikely since the Ferrari GTO doesn't have a powergear that you can quite a while on this track

Jun 26

  • dreadnaut
    Happy Birthday Bonzai Joe! :cheesy:
  • Shoegazing Leo
    Happy Birthday to Bonzai Joe and Daffy Duck!

Jun 27

  • afullo
    Happy Birthday!

Jun 28

  • Cas
    Happy birthday, Bonzai Joe!
  • Seeker1982
    Happy Birthday from here too Btw: PLEASE let my have this 1st win in freeplay/non-GAR - I'd be really happy about it :smiley: - this goes esp. to FinRok

Jun 29

  • FinRok
    If everyone would let someone to win for nothing then it would not be competition anymore! :cheesy: btw i'm retired as i mentioned before/after 2017 season. Happy birthday to everyone who had recently.

Jun 30

  • afullo
    Happy Birthday, Leo!
  • Duplode
    Feliz aniversário, Leo!
  • arturbmallmann
    parabéns, Leo.
  • CTG
    Happy böffday, Mr. Ramone! Bye-bye 10 Ballon d'Ors :cheesy:

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