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Mar 1

  • Zak McKracken
    you lucky ones belonging to the same language family... Sad
  • Akoss Poo
    A learned Italian in the grammar school, but it was 15 years ago. I almost completely forgot everything. But I also understand ~60% of it.
  • Akoss Poo
    A=I
  • dosbox92
    I said "I must take confidence in cutting the track in the right place! For now I'll settle for cut in some points, then we'll see ... Anyway my name is Alessandro" I hope the translate is correct! Smiley
  • Renato Biker
    Wow, I have 2030 leading hours. Tongue
  • Shoegazing Leo
    I have a third grade cousin called Alessandro. Is very common in Brazil a lot of ways of same name: Alessandro, Sandro, Alexsandro, Alex Sandro, Alexandre, Alex, Alexandro and others.
  • dosbox92
    My name is Alessandro, my father Sandro and my uncle Alessio! What a fantasy! Ahahahaha Smiley

Mar 2

  • Cas
    Hi. This is not wow, but it's something to say hello with Smiley
  • Friker
    Hello. Smiley
  • Marco
    two pilota strong has Biker and Friker might be in 2 different team.
  • Marco
    same thing about Bonzai and Duplode but Bonzai is not playing
  • Friker
    Considering pairs Me & Renato, CTG & Akoss Poo, Duplode & Bonzai Joe nad Alan Rotoi & Gutix/Chulk I think Duplode & Bonzai Joe duo is the best. And I am clearly the worst of these racers. So I do not know what are you complaining about.. Actually - I cannot help Renato and I cannot reproduce Renato's tricks so we do not help each other as much as could other pairs do.. Which is demotivating sometimes. Cheesy Be calm - Renato has no strong opponent (maybe Duplode?) this year and you can beat me if you want to.
  • Renato Biker
    I think that is a good thing two good riders at the same team, preferably if the opponents also are two good riders at the same team. I see no reason to have only one competitive rider on the team. BTW, I think that is incoherent Marco stay on team call slowdrive, he is not a slow driver. I think Marco need a competitive teammate, he will see as managed to achieve Friker and me. Duplode?
  • Renato Biker
    And Friker, of course you can help me. Remember of ZCT133, if I knew of your trick... Wink
  • dreadnaut
    Whops, the leading time code does not account for leap years Tongue I'll fix it before the end of the race!
  • dreadnaut
    @dosbox92: Afullo was looking for a team member, if you are interested.
  • dreadnaut
    Oh, and happy birthday! Smiley
  • dosbox92
    Thank you dreadnaut! I'm interested too to be in a team, but i think to not partecipate in every race; so i don't want Afullo remain alone, it would not be fair to him!
  • Zak McKracken
    something decent. What was I thinking cutting the loop from the right? :-O

Mar 3

  • afullo
    @dosbox92: innanzitutto benvenuto, non mi ero ancora fatto vedere da quando sei arrivato Smiley Per la squadra possiamo anche farla pure se non ci sei sempre, tanto c'è posto per altri due elementi, e se arriva qualcun altro in futuro possiamo allargarla Wink
  • dosbox92
    @afullo: ok, se per te va bene la possiamo fare! Non ho nulla in contrario... Volevo precisare che probabilmente non avrei partecipato a tutte le gare! Smiley
  • afullo
    Sì ma ci sta, non tutti qui partecipano a tutte le gare, c'è anche qualcuno di mediamente forte che ne salta alcune oppure ne fa proprio poche... Nome? Cheesy
  • dosbox92
    I have a question: when i go through the corkscrew (with the red wall) and i try to go on the right and I don't follow the yellow line, it's a shortcuts? If yes, my OWOOT record is invalid...
  • dosbox92
    Nome per la squadra? Non ne ho minimamente idea...
  • dosbox92
    @afullo: "The Sparks", The Fasts and furiouses (sarebbe troppo da megalomani ahahaha) "the oversteering", non lo so mi vengono cosi alla ca**o di cane Smiley
  • afullo
    Mi capita spesso di sbandare effettivamente, "the oversteering" ci può stare, visto pure che anche un paio di altri nomi fanno giochi di parole su situazioni di gara... Tongue
  • dosbox92
    Ahahahha ci potrebbe stare. Tu qualche idea?
  • afullo
    Boh, pensavo anch'io a qualcosa che c'entrasse col gioco, tipo "Start & Finish", "Jumping Bridge" (uno dei miei primi esperimenti con l'editor da bambino è stato quello di mettere un condominio in mezzo alle due rampe di una sopraelevata)...
  • Renato Biker
    Alessandro, on OWOOT mode you have to complete all the obstacle, loops too. You can not put the intire car on the grass, you made so many shortcuts in your lap. Smiley
  • dosbox92
    Start and finish mi garba Cheesy The Rolling Stunts!!!! Ahahahahah mi è venuto in questo momento ahahhaha!!!!
  • dosbox92
    @Renato Biker ok thank you! Understood! Cheesy So we needs to delete my record. I want to be correct!
  • dosbox92
    @Renato Biker: But in this track, i don't see the last 3 corners, i see only the grass. It's normal? (I'm a newbie) Cheesy
  • Renato Biker
    Smiley Right, it's not normal. But you can follow the natural line... Look the map of the track.
  • dosbox92
    @Renato Biker: ok totally understood, thank you!!
  • afullo
    Ok, The Rolling Stunts può essere l'idea definitiva. Approviamo? Smiley
  • dosbox92
    Ok Rolling Stunts, approvato! Cheesy
  • Marco
    Friker and Biker, obviously I'm joking. I'm not so aggressive Smiley Anyway it's true,In this moment, in this championship, you are the only 2 super strong players in a team. In the last race Friker said that Renato followed his line in a better way. so Sharing the replay each other you can clearly have an advantage . You are too strong for me so if you are in 2 different team it would be the same, then I'm not saying this thing to gain a position. I like my slow drive team because a guy that finished more than 3 seconds behind, is slow. Afullo , Dosbox why not an italian team name Smiley I would like to be in an italian team but I would be also very sad to leave my brasilian boss Leo and, anyway, I like the multination way of the various teams. It's social !!! One world, one race !
  • Renato Biker
    Something like MeganiuM Argentina High Tongue
  • dreadnaut
    Afullo, dosbox92: can you also send me a logo for the new team? It should be 75x50px, or at least the same shape. See the teams page: http://zak.stunts.hu/teams/
  • dreadnaut
    Also, get on the forum: Zak can create a private section for your team.

Mar 4

  • Duplode
    It is always nice to see a new team spring up. Rock on! Wink
  • Friker
    @dosbox92, @Renato, @OWOOT: If I remember correctly Duplode proposed that OWOOT rules can be relaxed on this track with "because you cannot follow the yellow line over invisible road squares OWOOT rules doesn't apply on these squares" (and of course the beggining corkscrew/banked road piece).
  • Marco
    Hi, I have seen the Alessandro owoot replay and, at 1:35.30, you are completely on the grass and also at the end, you jumped the "not visible" chicane. Dread is it possible to change OWOOT in IRC to have the NORH and follow the line where possible ?
  • dosbox92
    I think it's better to delete my OWOOT record: it does not follow actual rules. It's wrong to chance the rules during a Championship. Do you agree?
  • dreadnaut
    If people are happier with IRC-style rules, I'll change the label to "Strict OWOOT". It will be from the next race onward though.
  • Marco
    I m much more happier with strictly rules.
  • Renato Biker
    Since that I do not pass you. Tongue Sorry, kidding...

Mar 5

  • Marco
    Sure,If someone pass me, i will continue to ask to change rules till i win Smiley)). Joking aside, i know that i will lose against you with any kind of rules but i eould like to lose in irc Smiley))
  • Renato Biker
    lol Cheesy
  • afullo
    Dosbox92: per il logo? Smiley
  • dosbox92
    Afullo: per il logo non so, fai tu non ho preferenze di alcun tipo

Mar 6

  • afullo
    Ok, ci penso un attimo... Wink

Mar 7

  • Marco
    Ale have you used the RH (replay handling) on your OWOOT record or not ?
  • dosbox92
    No Marco, I don't. Why?
  • Marco
    No he was only to know to decide how to try again. If you have run with NORH I will try with NORH too. Anyway, at the end, you have jumped the last ghost chicane again. No problem, it's a trial and this was not properly an easy circuit for IRC rule.
  • Marco
    NORH OWOOT, little improvement . Still far from Dosbox92
  • Marco
    Opss, I have uploaded it on the wrong competition, Not important. it was only 0.00.15 better Smiley

Mar 8

  • Duplode
    There is no real precedent for this OWOOT on invisible corners issue, so I opened a forum topic and poll for discussion: Invisible corners and OWOOT Go there and have your say!
  • dosbox92
    I'm agree with Duplode. In the last 3 corners we don't see the track, so we "can try" to stay on it. But in the rest of the track we MUST stay on it. I think that is a particular situation...
  • dosbox92
    Marco, I would be very happy if you improve your OWOOT time, with/without NORH. I like the idea to have a wheel to wheel battle! (see my image profile Cheesy ) Anyway, my OWOOT tyme isn't the best, because i always drive the march indy not slower car(I hate understeer). So i gonna do more practice with porsche carrera for this race! Tongue
  • dosbox92
    time*
  • dosbox92
    I have a question for Zak and Dread: if you upload all the replays on youtube? The site would be more popular on the net. It's a suggestion.
  • Marco
    Ale, if you didn't use the RH, I will not use it Smiley Last turn is invisible but it's possible to stay on it . If we decide to cut it then we can perform the super jump and gain 5 seconds . Because we are introducing the IRC mode as secondary championship, can next tracks returns at least normal terrestrial speaking ?. I mean, without strange stargate or ghost tracks and mountain Smiley I want the IRC !!! OWOOT + NORH Smiley. Ah regarding OWOOT, I think that if you go out on the outside losing time it's not a problem right ? otherwise I think that some slow players could find the owoot too frustrating.
  • Marco
    i have some problems with the forum ... I don't understand how to use it, where are the topics ... I prefer to use this board
  • dosbox92
    Marco, I agree with you about OWOOT time. If I go off the track losing time, it's logical that there aren't problems to upload it. About IRC (I don't know all the rules), I want it too!
  • Marco
    If i'm not wrong, IRC is OWOOT + NORH so, basically, what we are already doing now on the OWOOT form . Anyway I asked to Dread to specify IRC for the next races so to remove the possibility to use the RH otherwise it has no sense for my point of view. RH is a trick and it has no sense to use it following the yellow line. Do you agree ?
  • dosbox92
    Yes I do.
  • Marco
    Ok, ALE, I passed you OWOOT NORH. Now it is your turn again. 25 years ago probably I would think to use the RH saying that i didn't use it. It's incredible how an italian could become honest becoming old Smiley. 25 years to win a ping pong match I was able to steal points in every mode Smiley Today I prefer to gift points if there are some doubts. Probably this is because when you are very young you think that you are superman. Becoming old it's very important to see what is your real limiti. Anyway the reason why I'm asking for NORH is because i find it funny instead of the RH that's super frustrating for me. The search of the perfection in every single session is frustrating.
  • Marco
    Check my friends from 49:65 to 49:90. It seems to me that one wheel is on track because i have turned to remain on track. but it was at the very limit. Dread, Zak , only to know perfect rules ? Is this valid ?
  • Marco
    OMG !!! front tires of the porsche are faked Smiley Are moved on the left, for that reason i had a tire on track in the previous lap. This is better
  • dosbox92
    Marco! Fasten your seatbelt and let's fight wheel to wheel (metaphorically), I'm first again! OWOOT NOHR. It's incredible how much you improve your time! Cheesy
  • Duplode
    Re: Marco/Alessandro [1] According to tradition, IRC isn't OWOOT + NoRH. Most IRC rules competitions, including IRC itself, allowed RH. IRC means "always follow the yellow line". An example of non-IRC OWOOT would be allowing jumps over corks up/down, in which you remain OWOOT without following the yellow line around the spiral. [2] That said, I wouldn't mind at all making the IRC scoreboard NoRH, or even adding a third scoreboard for that if it doesn't make things too confusing. For now, if you and the other racers in that scoreboard adopt IRC + NoRH I will do likewise. [3] I believe the last corner before the finish should be treated normally even if there is an OWOOT exception for the invisible corners. That being so, you should be OWOOT both at the northern edge of the hill slope before the invisible corners and at the southern edge of the final corner. [4] If I were the referee, I'd rule Marco's 2:08.70 as legal, if very close to the limit, for even at 49.85 (when the rear left wheel is entirely off the track) the front left wheel remains in it according to the "standard" F3 angle (three clicks right, ten clicks up). It is true that the wheel is about a pixel off-centre due to a graphical artefact; in this case, however, I'd rather err on the side of leniency. [5] About the forum: it's okay -- it indeed is a sprawling and sometimes bewildering place Smiley There is no need to move the discussion there. I just created the topic there for the poll, and also because long posts (like this one Smiley) are easier to read there.
  • Marco
    Nice Duplode !!! Thank you. What we are looking to is the "let me say" normal way to play the game. IRC + NORH so follow the line. To be honest I don't think that is strictly necessary the tire on track rule in the sense that, if i'm not wrong, the only piece of track where you can place tires out without losing speed is the fast chicane. Anyway i understand that without the owoot rule it could become a problem define what is legal and what is not legal. To avoid any kind of bad behaviour, we could also create a youtube channel where ,all the "normal" racers, can upload their real time lap recorded on dosbox with ctrl+alt+f5 and insert it various playlist . The playlist define the race c174, c175 ... Alessandro what do you think? You are young , open a youtube channel and give the pwd to everyone want to race the normal (IRC+OWOOT+NORH+ETC.) race
  • Marco
    I have recorded the real time lap with dosbox.

Mar 9

  • dosbox92
    Marco, I'm first another time in OWOOT race. About youtube, to create a new account, it ask me a new gmail account, telephone number, etc. I thought could do it the owners of this site.
  • dosbox92
    Marco check the last 3 corners in my last laptime: is it legal for you?
  • Marco
    Congrats my friend, for my point of view absolutely valid. Generally speaking, there's need that we pay close attention before to upload a replay to do not waste administrators time (otherwise they will not accept the IRC). So before to upload, we have to check the replay with F3 as explained by Duplode. About the Youtube Channel, it's very easy to open a new google mail and then the channel but i agree with you, if the administrators agree, could be interesting to have it. Anyway one step per time Smiley Very pleased to have such a champion as Duplode on the "normal" championship . Now waiting for Biker , Friker, Abu, etc. too Smiley . I have always understood that you, Alessandro, are a strong player also if you use the automatic gear. This sounds strange but your driving skill are very great and, first of all, you don't fall in fear in the last part of track. I mean, usually i start fast then i become too conservative Smiley)). The age
  • dosbox92
    Thank you Marco! About automatic transmission, unfortunately i use the hands in a strange way: with right hand I press up, down and right arrows, with the left hand I press left arrow. So when I press enter key (or A-Z) to change gear, I lose concentration. That's why I use automatic gears Smiley
  • Duplode
    Alessandro: You can use Space and Enter to change gears. I believe people who use both hands to steer usually do that.
  • Marco
    Oh, yes this is in the F1GP style Alessandro.. so for sure you can be a great F1GP player
  • Renato Biker
    I use A and Z to change gear.
  • Marco
    I have recorded the real time ... Can you check Duplode if it's valid ?

Mar 10

  • Marco
    Sorry, we are learning. I'm not sure about my last replay in the sense that, there's single moment 0:00:05 in which my car is very close to the track but seems to be out. Using F3 above position as Duplode explained , I can see that there is no a clear pixel line of grass between my car chassis and the track but i don't know if this is enough. Surely i didn't gain 3 seconds for that also because I'm on the outside but rules are rules . What do you think Duplode ?
  • dosbox92
    Don't worry Marco. it's a particular situation Smiley
  • Marco
    Well, surely I didn't gain 3 seconds but maybe 0.00.20 ... Ale you have pushed the automatic gear to the limit Smiley and your lap is very fast and clearly valid. So now, it's important that some expert racer say if my lap is valid or not. If super Duplode can help us.
  • dosbox92
    Thank you Marco, I'm pleased of your words! I'm trying to push this car very very hard and I think this laptime is the best for me Smiley

Mar 11

  • Duplode
    Marco: The crucial frame in your 1:59.70 is 55.65, at which the front right wheel is off the track. However, there is a teeny little bit of the rear right wheel on the track. The wheel itself cannot be seen from the centred overhead F3 angle, but tilting the camera to the left a bit shows it lies just ahead of the darker yellow "fender" line, and given the curvature of the track at that point there must be some overlap between tire and tarmac. So it as legal as far as my eyes can tell.
  • Duplode
    Those are some pretty good times by the way, sirs.
  • Marco
    Hi Duplode, I checked the replay as you did ... When i have uploaded it I used only the F3 above position and i have seen that the chassis "touches" the track . Moving the camera position I have seen that it depends by the angle view.. There are some snapshot in which i can see my tires touching the track and some snapshot in which i see my tires on the grass. There's also a graphic issue about front tires that are sliding on the left. Don't know my friends... what about the strictly IRC rules ? For my point of view it would be easier to catch only the F3 above roof position, if a tire (openwheel) or the chassis (stock car) touch the track is good otherwise not. What do you think ?
  • Duplode
    About angles: I have been checking your replays from the "standard" camera position (F3, default zoom, 3 clicks to the left, 10 clicks upwards). When I mentioned "tilting the camera to the left a bit", I only meant doing so to clarify where the wheel is along the car body. As for using the chassis instead of the wheels, it might reduce ambiguity in some cases, but the chassis is just as subject to camera angle issues as the wheels. Also, the physical behaviour of the car is dependent of wheel position, and not at all on the visible body, so checking according to the wheels feels a little fairer IMO. (That said, wheel-checking can get inconvenient at times -- to see what I mean, try playing with the F3 camera around the Jaguar...)
  • Marco
    Yes but if you establish that only view f3 - 3 left 10 up is the check view then it s much easier and avoid strange graphic 3d issue.easier because it s only a view valid, so no angle view complaints from drivers.if there is a complete green pixel line between car and track you are out otherwise you are in.obviously there s need to use the chassis too.
  • dreadnaut
    Before I forget, I've added the Rolling Stunts as a team. Chaps, don't forget the logo! Smiley

Mar 12

  • afullo
    Thank you dreadnaut! I will design it ASAP (which can be not so early, though).

Mar 13

  • Zak McKracken
    quiet replays published
  • Zak McKracken
    new track available
  • dreadnaut
    And first replay Smiley

Mar 14

  • Duplode
    Great call by Renato on ging for the radical shortcut at the lake sector and then finding a way to regain the lost speed. Well done!
  • Shoegazing Leo
    Well.. starting the jobs...
  • Marco
    Everyone must watch Renato's c175 replay !!! I'm sure that if Brad Gour and Don Mattrick will see this replay, they could remain shocked !!! Congratulation ... What a start . How you can find something a jump like that , how Huh? That's unbelievable !!! My friend Dread, can you enable the IRC norh season for human players ? I don't want more to compete against these aliens !!! Smiley
  • Marco
    Renato, are you using the keyboard Huh?
  • Renato Biker
    Thank you guys. Marco, of course I am using keyboard. About that jump. it is not a novelty, look the replays of ZCT058. Wink
  • Marco
    Very good IRC Track
  • dreadnaut
    I have already renamed the additional tag as "Strict OWOOT", that is, IRC-style rules. Follow the yellow line Smiley
  • Zak McKracken
    trying owoot+norh Smiley
  • Zak McKracken
    and a normal run

Mar 15

  • Marco
    Good Zak ... have you seen that's funny ? Smiley) Hi Dread , i don't see the modification. I read always OWOOT
  • afullo
    Can this: ( rollstunts_ok.png) be an idea for a Rolling Stunts logo? Smiley
  • afullo
    Sorry, wrong link: rollstunts_ok.png
  • dosbox92
    afullo: I love this logo!!!! Smiley
  • afullo
    Ok, we can put this one. Zak/dread, you can proceed, please. Wink
  • dreadnaut
    Logo updated Smiley
  • afullo
    Thank you dread!
  • Zak McKracken
    thanks, nice logo!
  • Shoegazing Leo
    Three of five teams with some musical influence...

Mar 16

  • Marco
    The king of the automatic gear Smiley Automatic gear is a handicap, if you learn to drive with gear probably you win with 5 seconds gap the IRC Smiley

Mar 17

  • Akoss Poo
    Can I find somewhere ZCT173 replays?
  • Dreadnaut
    There is a link at the top of the track page with the zip file, or you can download single one from the "All results" list.
  • dosbox92
    After one day i succeded to improve my owoot time. What a track!! Smiley

Mar 18

  • Akoss Poo
    I know, but the replays directory is empty...
  • Marco
    Another laptime at the limit (Rules speaking). Fortunately, Dosbox92 already improved to 1.29 with an incredible lap, so I have no problem about stealing him something. Congratulation. Sorry Duplode, what do you think of my lap at 1.11.20 and 1.11.25 ? Thank you
  • Zak McKracken
    I was also unable to fetch ZCT173 replays - the download links do not work for me at http://zak.stunts.hu/tracks/ZCT173/all
  • dreadnaut
    Whops, there is something wrong with the replay list from ZCT171 to ZCT173. The data is there, but is not linked correctly between tables. Should be possible to fix it, I'll do it tomorrow morning Smiley

Mar 19

  • Duplode
    Marco: 1:11.20 looks okay (small bit of rear right on the track). As for 1:11.25, using the pixel of the front left as a reference, the front right seems to be on track, though it is hard to tell... (I have only watched those two frames in order not to give myself spoilers of the track Smiley)
  • dreadnaut
    Replays should be fixed now!
  • Marco
  • Marco
    My last video on original hardware of the nineties Smiley

Mar 20

  • Renato Biker
    Great, Marco. I played so much GP2 in my life! Great game!
  • Renato Biker
    BTW, good choice of circuit. I already ride with my bike in Interlagos. So fun, with inclined climbs and descents. Smiley
  • Alan Rotoi
    Something
  • dosbox92
    What a fantastic game! Gp2!

Mar 21

  • FinRok
    Hello!
  • Friker
    FinRok? Welcome. Did you have a website about some old game?
  • dreadnaut
    Hello FinRok, and welcome to the competition!

Mar 22

  • Marco
    Rok is one of the best dos gamer in the world. He has several youtube channel with the name that included "ROK" and he is also "Guybrush Threepwood" always on youtube. i asked him several time to join and obviously he is racing against me Smiley We have a challenge opened since several years Smiley . Anyway Dread, he flagged the owoot by mistake, so his lap is good only for the main championship Smiley)
  • Zak McKracken
    Welcome Rok! Nice to see more pro DOS gamers here Smiley We'll take care of that incorrect OWOOT flag soon - the OWOOT system is still experimental so deletion is not so straightforward as I guessed Smiley
  • Marco
    Sorry friends, but is everyone playing the OWOOT with NORH or someone is using the RH ?
  • FinRok
    Thanks! Yes i selected OWOOT by mistake and yes i have youtube channels but never got owned an website for dos games. Marco very nice new leading time, congrats Smiley
  • Marco
    Rok My friend, there are 30 and less than 30 years old guys year that fly on stunts.this new leading lap will be destroied.probably 10 seconds better Smiley))
  • Marco
    Sorry i wrote year instead than "here"
  • afullo
    Troll lap just to appear on the NoRH scoreboard. Cheesy Maybe if I have some more time I will do a "real" race. Smiley
  • dreadnaut
    Oh, why not! Here's my NoRH with an alternative car. Can't wait for a race with the Lotus.
  • dreadnaut
    So close... I had to drive another lap Tongue
  • afullo
    Beated. Wink

Mar 23

  • dreadnaut
    It took four tries, but this is good Smiley
  • dosbox92
    Hello FinRok! I'm Alessandro and I'm very happy to have another racer ( what a racer!). Congratulation for your laps, they're very fast! Smiley
  • FinRok
    Hello dosbox92 nice to meet you I'm ROK, like wise very nice to be here Smiley Guys check out my tuned car from 90's it's Scimitar built in to a Corvette chassis with jet engine displacement Cheesy
  • FinRok
  • Renato Biker
    Cheesy That's a insane car! But, see the permanent tracks results, it's faster. Wink
  • FinRok
    Live fast, die young or drive fast die too old Cheesy haha

Mar 24

  • Shoegazing Leo
    JTK on the scoreboard... Cool to see some legends!

Mar 25

  • FinRok
    drunk driving is allowed in closed circuit! right ? hahah

Mar 26

  • dreadnaut
    Should we try to organise a live race again? Does anyone have time in the next days? Smiley Discuss on the forum: Live races 2016

Mar 28

  • Duplode
    I think those of you populating the alternate scoreboards will enjoy live racing a lot Smiley

Mar 30

  • Duplode
    A day (?) in the sun...

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